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I am 29 year old male virgin not by choice. I am not a religious person or waiting for marriage.
They say that confidence will guide you. Yet I try to approach a woman with noble intentions, I'm greeted with continuous harsh rejection, violent reactions, threats of bodily harm from either companions unknown to me or other guys looking to score as well for two years.
I tapped out in '06 thinking that it is not worth it anymore and haven't looked back since.
Since then, I've been working and and having good times.
I know that women get approached every hour on the hour so I don't think approaching a woman anywhere is a good idea (unless you are a smooth/dashing/player man)
I also know that not all women are alike and believe there's a lovely woman someone out there but going through the pain and agony again.

I've thought about paying a visit to a brothel to assist me in this endevour.

I feel that I have no options and just looking to know what I can do.

dont give up, and try to avoid visiting a brothel for your time it should be special and enjoyable and i dont think you will feel that with a stranger. your time will come possibly when you least expect it good luck and be confident ;)

Originally posted by: unsure
dont give up, and try to avoid visiting a brothel for your time it should be special and enjoyable and i dont think you will feel that with a stranger. your time will come possibly when you least expect it good luck and be confident ;)

I think you are 100% right!
Try to avoid a brothel, your first time should be special with someone you love!
Maybe you can try and build your self confidence a little?
Maybe first finding dates online can help you too. Then you'd have a meeting and the girl you're about to meet already "knows" you so the approach won't be so difficult for you.
Just some ideas off the top of my head, hope they help.

I don't know...at this point, I would go to a prostitute. Sorry but it's just a biological human need and they provide a service.

Opinions can be motivated by personal beliefs (moral, religious, etc).
Not everyone believes prostitution is wrong.

Everyone needs to experience human touch. If for whatever reason, a person is not able to experience that, why not go to somewhere that provides that service.
Go to an Asian masseuse an get what you need.

I'm sorry but I read about all kinds of perverse stuff that I would never consider doing on this forum, but I don't tell them not to do it. This is something he should decide for himself. If not anything else, he will have an experience he wouldn't have while waiting to find somebody. It's painful to be in that situation so having someone treat you good by massaging your entire body and giving you a happy ending is a relief to a person in his situation.


That's what they're there for.

Originally posted by: Rens
your first time should be special with someone you love!

I've actually heard the opposite from a good friend of mine a few years ago. Your first time should actually be with someone you don't really care about, if possible, someone you may not see again. In his words, this is so you're not terrible and inexperienced at it when it's time to have sex with the one you love.

I can see where you're coming from with what you're saying though. I don't think an issue such as this has a definite right or wrong answer to it. It's a matter of opinion and everyone has their own way of thinking.

and mysterymethod.com. The creators (David DeAngelo and Mystery) are awesome.

David is an expert at dating and Mystery is an expert at pick up. Personally, I'm an expert at female orgasm. All these parts to losing your virginity are important.

Mystery says to attract, then build comfort, then seduce. David says, "Attraction isn't a choice. It's a response to certain traits."

What's important is that you:
-identify the traits in women that you're attracted to (eg hot, smart and nice) and the traits that you're not (eg bitchiness, dishonesty, narcissism). If you see someone that meets YOUR standards, then approach her. If they don't, then don't waste your time.
-identify the traits these women are attracted to (which are mostly personality traits like leadership)
-develop these traits in yourself by doing self-improvement courses and hanging out with guys who already have these traits
-Then go to the RIGHT PLACES. The best place is a house party because it has built in comfort and familiarity and is less likely to activate the "bar bitch persona" and the "anti-slut defense".

Do all of the above simultaneously and constantly recalibrate as you learn from your mistakes.

I've looked into this whole mysterymethod, Deangelo angle and I cannot believe anything these guys say.

To me, it sounds like a large scam. a large game. Training other to be players which I do not want to become.

plus I clicked your link and it looks like a scam as well.

Try not to stress too much, it will happen when it happens.

I'm 29 and was a virgin up until very recently. I went through the whole"pay to loose it stage", but I'm so glad I didn't do it.

Just concentrate on getting out there and meeting people, the right girl will come along one day.

Originally posted by: pastalover
I've looked into this whole mysterymethod, Deangelo angle and I cannot believe anything these guys say.

To me, it sounds like a large scam. a large game. Training other to be players which I do not want to become.

plus I clicked your link and it looks like a scam as well.

Everyone is giving away free stuff that you can use to get immediate results. The only catch is that YOU have to do something with the information.

Your situation is the result of some serious self-limiting beliefs. You choose not to change your beliefs so you are a 29 year old virgin by choice. It's hard to believe that you're a virgin when you live in a country where most teenagers are becoming sexually-active at 12-14 years old. You must be doing something seriously wrong. It's not the outside world. It's you. You're scamming yourself with the games you play inside your own head.

Give yourself a break.
Go pay somebody.
You pay anyway when you go on dates and you might go home with blue balls.
Going could help you to feel more relaxed about women and sex.
I'm not talking about a street-hooker. I'm talking about an established business that you visit. They're everywhere.

Sorry, that's just my opinion. This is America.

dude I know what your going through. I am 30 and a virgin guy. IT SUCKS. What makes it worst is I have hypersexuality from bipolar. I think about sex all the time what its like and want it so bad. I know what your going through dude. It sucks.